Question:
Do you think Japan will ever take ぢ out of the hiragana alphabet and replace it with じ for all situations?
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16 years ago
Today ゑ(we) and ゐ(wi) are obsolete so do you ever think ぢ(ji) will become obsolete and replace all Japanese words that have ぢ with a じ? I was thinking about this because most ji-words use じ anyway.
Three answers:
anonymous
16 years ago
Yes, ぢ and じ sound the same. But, look at English-- we use different letters to represent the same sounds, for example mm or mn for the "m" sound. Why not replace "x" with "ks" and "z?" We hardly ever use "x" anyway. We haven't changed our language to get rid of redundancy, so why would Japanese?



Also, retaining ぢ reflects the etymology of the word. For example, when a compound word is made that has a second word beginning with a voiceless consonant, the voiceless consonant becomes voiced. For example, "neko" + "shita" becomes "nekojita." If you do this with with a "chi" word, you'll want to retain "ぢ," not replace it with "じ."



ゑ and ゐ fell out of use because the Japanese language changed in such a way that these sounds were lost. The sound of "ぢ," however, has not been lost, so there is no reason to think that the mechanism that removed ゑ and ゐ will remove "ぢ."



I don't think "ぢ" will disappear until the sound disappears from the language-- and I don't see that happening any time soon. In fact, I think that it's more likely that じ will lose its affrication and become a sound distinct from "ぢ". (You realize that the voiced equivalent of "shi" would not be a "ji" sound, but a voiced alveolar fricative, which is the sound you hear in the "s" of "casual" or the "z" of "azure.")
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16 years ago
I don't think they should. The only example I know of since I'm still learning Japanese is "hanaji" or "nose bleed." (I made it a point to learn it since I used to get a lot of nose bleeds). It is written "鼻血" (はなぢ, nose bleed), 鼻時 (はなじ, yes, I know that kanji is just really nonsense, but you still get my point.) is something completely different.
Mudget
16 years ago
Maybe...many centuries from now....I didn't even know about ゑand ゐso maybe there will come a day where people don't know about ぢ O_O It could really go either way, though.


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