Question:
Are there discrepancies in the usage of the lisped "th" sound in Spain?
TaylorB
2008-11-25 23:16:34 UTC
I understand the concept that "z" and "c" under some circumstances are pronounced as a "th" sound in Spain. I am curious as to whether or not there are rules that dictate when "ce" and "ci" will be pronounced differently (or if there are regional differences) or if there is a uniform pronunciation.
I ask because while listening to music in Spanish sung by Spaniards, there seem to be words where my perceived pronunciation is different than that I would expect to hear.
Six answers:
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2008-11-25 23:47:54 UTC
Is it possible that you are mentally spelling words with a ce, ci, or z that actually are spelled with an s? Or that the singers were from Andalucia, where the s pronunciation is used (thus the English spelling "Andalusia")? Could you give an example of pronunciations that surprised you?
mary_the_teacher
2008-11-26 08:53:15 UTC
Spanish is a language spoken by four hundred million people in the world and over thirty countries as the main and native language, so you can realize how many differences could happen. Its the same with english, the australian accent sounds different than the irish, british, "alabamer" or "wisconsiner".

Only in Spain, with 42.000.000 inhabitants, we speak different from a region to another, and imagine what with latinamericans!

One of the most evident differences is the use of the "z" and the "c". The vast majority os spanishspeakers say it nowadays as an "s". But it is not a mispelling but a regional pronounciation.
Molertolga
2008-11-26 16:19:05 UTC
In Spain (Europe) a "Z" is always pronounced "TH" and a "C" before "E" or "I" is also pronounced TH:

Zaragoza [Tharagotha], Zamora [Thamora], Galicia [Galithia], Cáceres [Ka-theres]...



In some parts of Spain (Europe) and in all South-America "Z" with any vowel and "C" before E or I are pronounced like S (double SS).

Venezuela [Venesuela], Cáceres [Ká-seres]. Zaragoza [Saragosa]...



"C" before "A", "O" or "U" is always pronounced like "K" in any spanish dialect. Caracas [Karakas], Colombia [Kolombia], Cuba [Kuba], Costa Rica [Kosta-Rika], Puerto Rico [Puerto-Riko], ...



Spanish (español) or Castilian (castellano) is an Indo-European, Romance language that originated in northern Spain, and gradually spread in the Kingdom of Castile and evolved into the principal language of government and trade. It was taken to Africa, the Americas, and Asia Pacific with the expansion of the Spanish Empire between the fifteenth and nineteenth centuries.



Today, between 322 and 400 million people speak Spanish as a native language,making it the world's second or third most-spoken language by native speakers, depending on the sources



There are important variations among the regions of Spain and throughout Spanish-speaking America. In countries in Hispanophone America, it is preferable to use the word castellano to distinguish their version of the language from that of Spain, thus asserting their autonomy and national identity. In Spain, the Castilian dialect's pronunciation is commonly regarded as the national standard, although a use of slightly different pronouns called laísmo of this dialect is deprecated. More accurately, for nearly everyone in Spain, "standard Spanish" means, "pronouncing everything exactly as it is written," an ideal which does not correspond to any real dialect, though the northern dialects are the closest to it. In practice, the standard way of speaking Spanish in the media is "written Spanish" for formal speech, "Madrid dialect" (one of the transitional variants between Castilian and Andalusian) for informal speech.
Xinoxano
2008-11-26 14:00:28 UTC
When written z o c (the latter before e and i) it is pronounced th in Spain except Andalusia, some areas of Extremadura and the Canary Islands, where they are pronounced like s.



In Latin America only s is pronouced in these cases.
anonymous
2008-11-26 08:08:35 UTC
Hi! I´m spanish. In spanish there are two forms to pronounce of "ce" and ci", the correct forrm is /th/ always. And, in the south, in Andalucía , we usually say /se/ and /si/, Cosina, instead of Cocina. Ah! we can say with "s" the sounds of z,x,c,but only if it is in the middle of the word, because absolute all of our vocabulary ends in vocal.ej:estress, we say /ejtré/ , exnovio=/esnovio/

, exagerar , we say / essageráa/, las casas, i say (jejeje) /láa kassáa/, el zapatero= /el sapatero/...



Well, maybe i exaggerate, and i hope you can understand me, and the answer really anwer to you.



Could you rewrite my question in the correct form? Please? I am learning english.



happily thanks:)
anonymous
2008-11-26 07:23:02 UTC
hmm not sure

i know they dont pronounce the s

like in bebe songs simepre me quedara



"la voz suave del mar, volver a reSpiar"



she says. "repiar"


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