Question:
Can anybody tell me what Communism is just a red herring means?
?
2013-09-18 21:01:41 UTC
I've heard it several times, especially in the movie Clue, but even before then I was aware of the saying yet I never quite grasped the true meaning of it. When someone says, Oh Communism is just a red herring... What does it mean? Can someone please tell me?
Six answers:
anonymous
2013-09-18 21:09:32 UTC
a red herring is something that is not true but is used to distract from what is actually going on. In literature a "red herring" would be something that distracts readers and leads them to the wrong conclusion. So in clue, im sure there were a lot of red herrings. As far as communism? I could see why back during the cold war people may have thought that communism was just a red herring to distract from... something... else...? haha Im not sure!
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2016-11-10 07:00:34 UTC
Herring Meaning
jimdragontech
2013-09-18 21:25:28 UTC
sorry, the phrase is a joke and a quote from the movie "Clue".

in this manner a 'red herring' is a phrase meaning the action or statement is meant to be a distraction, a confusion, or a deception.

In the former government of the now Russian Republic, the color of the ruling Communist party was red, hence the reference to Russians as 'red' and china as 'red china'.
?
2013-09-18 21:49:47 UTC
Claiming that a country is on the verge of becoming Communistic, and using that as a pretext to over throw its government, assassinate its leaders and put in place a stooge government. See 1953 overthrow of Mosadegh in Iran, and Allende of Chile.
RE
2013-09-18 21:48:02 UTC
A deliberate distraction.



In a literal sense, there is no such fish as a "red herring"; it refers to a particularly strong kipper, a fish (typically a herring) that has been strongly cured in brine and/or heavily smoked. This process makes the fish particularly pungent smelling and, with strong enough brine, turns its flesh reddish.[8] In its literal sense as a strongly cured kipper, the term can be dated to the mid-13th century, in the poem The Treatise by Walter of Bibbesworth: "He eteþ no ffyssh But heryng red."



Until very recently, the figurative sense of "red herring" was thought to originate from a supposed technique of training young scent hounds. There are variations of the story, but according to one version, the pungent red herring would be dragged along a trail until a puppy learned to follow the scent. Later, when the dog was being trained to follow the faint odour of a fox or a badger, the trainer would drag a red herring (whose strong scent confuses the animal) perpendicular to the animal's trail to confuse the dog. The dog eventually learned to follow the original scent rather than the stronger scent. An alternate etymology points to escaping convicts who used the pungent fish to throw off hounds in pursuit.



According to etymologist Michael Quinion, the idiom likely originates from an article published 14 February 1807 by radical journalist William Cobbett in his polemical Political Register. In a critique of the English press, which had mistakenly reported Napoleon's defeat, Cobbett recounted that he had once used a red herring to deflect hounds in pursuit of a hare, adding "It was a mere transitory effect of the political red-herring; for, on the Saturday, the scent became as cold as a stone." Quinion concludes: "This story, and [Cobbett's] extended repetition of it in 1833, was enough to get the figurative sense of red herring into the minds of his readers, unfortunately also with the false idea that it came from some real practice of huntsmen."



Although Cobbett most famously mentioned it, he was not the first to consider red herring for scenting hounds; an earlier reference occurs in the pamphlet "Nashe's Lenten Stuffe," published in 1599 by the Elizabethan writer Thomas Nashe, in which he says "Next, to draw on hounds to a scent, to a red herring skin there is nothing comparable." The Oxford English Dictionary makes no connection with Nashe's quote and the figurative meaning of red herring, only in the sense of a hunting practice.



The use of herring to throw off pursuing scent hounds was tested on Episode 148 of the series MythBusters. Although the hound used in the test stopped to eat the fish and lost the fugitive's scent temporarily, he eventually backtracked and located his target, resulting in the myth being classified as "Busted".
?
2013-09-18 21:04:14 UTC
Red herring means something is irrelevant or not important to the discussion.



Its usually made when someone is trying to make a point about something (e.g. communism) but really has nothing to do with the discussion or argument at hand.


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